I honestly dislike this scene so much.
At that part in the film, Pitch has lost everything. The children can’t see him anymore, Jamie walked right through him (which for a spirit, is probably the most terrible feeling they can possibly feel). Pitch is totally destroyed emotionally, and as if that’s not enough, now they have to hurt him physically.
He wasn’t even a threat anymore at that point anymore. This action was not taken out of self-defense or out of wanting to protect the children, but out of a sheer desire to hurt Pitch and make him suffer. That’s just revenge, plain and simple. That’s not an action of a hero(ine).
If you look at the last gif Tooth is smirking so cockily at Pitch. It shocks me that Tooth can actually see that look of hurt and pain on Pitch’s face in the 3rd gif and can still be smiling. Its almost as if she’s taking pleasure at seeing his pain. Think of it, after knocking Pitch’s tooth she taunts him ever further.
If this wasn’t a film aimed at young kids, can you imagine the blood all over Pitch’s mouth, his hands, and the ice? If Pitch had done this to Jack or Tooth, the whole fandom would be furious and hating on Pitch. And yet, when Tooth does it, I see so much of the fandom saying how this is so funny and how its their fav scene and so on.
And what message does this impart to the children who are watching? That they supposed to take revenge instead of forgive? That its alright to go hit someone you don’t like? And take delight at their pain after that?
Isn’t this the point where the Guardians have to show that they are the better person than Pitch? That they are of higher morals? Instead, they show that inside them, they still possess the same capacity to take revenge, the same capacity to hurt, and the same capacity to take pleasure from it.
Really, Dreamworks. This scene was totally unnecessary. Just because of trying to get the audience to laugh, they’ve diminished the message of the film and left me with a little less respect for Tooth.
I really love the Guardians and Tooth, but just not in this scene. Sorry.
Okay everyone, brace yourselves, this is going to be long.
I love Pitch’s character. I really do. He’s very interesting, one of the most complex villains that has ever been created for a children’s movie, and he’s also a character that personally needed to be explored more, which I think this is one of the flaws of the movie, his lack of a better representation.
His wish to be believed again and his grudge against the other guardians is understandable. They were created to keep Pitch away resulting in his current, invisible state, making him feel lonely and bitter. Everyone could relate to him. But there is a important thing that makes me disagree with this post:
His reasons are understandable, but that doesn’t justify his actions.
Did we forget what he did to the Guardians? Sure, he made children stop believing in the Guardians so that they could experience his pain, and that would have been okay if he had stop there. He killed Sandy and also, it is implied that once they were helpless, he started giving children everywhere nightmares, so scaring them. He actually tried to hurt Jamie. Why? Well, we are talking about the Boogeyman, a person who’s passion and delight is scaring and tormenting children. He’s not exactly a victim as the post above showed us.
And now about Toothiana:
I may lose followers for this (coming also for one who also enjoys the Cavity ship), but I think Tooth had every reason to punch Pitch.
1) He attacked her Palace. In the books, her Library of Teeth seemed to be run by her for hundreds and hundreds of years. As she pointed out, is one of the busiest guardians, she’s not like North or Bunny, she hasn’t got to work one day per year, but for 24/7. For hundreds of fucking years, without a moment to rest and take time for herself. How would you feel if someone come and ruined all the work you’ve been making for almost an eternity without pausing?
2) He kidnapped her fairies. The mini-fairies are little extensions of herself, so they could be considered her helpers or her children. Would you forgive the one who kidnapped them? Or, if you believe they’re merely her helpers, remember they’re the only people she got a relationship with them, by seeing the movie you can see Tooth cares about them very much, like friends. Somewhat, by taking a look at her busy life, Guardians apart, they’re the only good companions she had to communicate and not feeling alone. I bet they were the reasons her job didn’t drive her crazy, for how much Tooth loved doing it. And they were extensions of herself yes, but you can see the mini fairies also had individual personalities, look at Baby Tooth! How would you feel if someone took your only companions for centuries away and locked them in cages?
3) Pitch taunted her and dismissed her abilities. “What are you going to do, put a quarter under my pillow?” I bet it was pretty humiliating for her, as would have been for everyone in her place. Pitch completely underrated her and had no qualms to publicly express it.
Those were the reasons who drove Tooth to hit him, and to be honest, I respect her. The post above said she was mean but I think it was something totally human. And the smirk she gave him is a sort of “revenge” against his statement, something that was a very normal thing to do.
Pitch, at the end was emotionally crushed, I can’t deny it, but he deserved it. He was the villain, I don’t care if his backstory was tragic and he wanted to be believed him, he could have searched for a way to do it without harming anyone especially the children!That was the reason the Guardians were created for the first place, to protect them! And the fact that Toothiana punched him was something that he deserved. Pitch is a very sympathetic and charismatic villain and anyone could relate to him but saying the big bad needed to be forgiven and “understood” after all he has done to the Guardians, and Tooth should have been not responded after he offended her because otherwise this was a bad lesson for children, makes me at the same time laugh and upset.
Having empathy with a villain is good. Understanding him is okay. But everyone should remember the actions he did in the story and not be ready to forgive him on the spot because of his emotions. The villains hurt people and make them suffer, we could feel sorry for him because of his reasons to do so, but their terrible actions should never never justify them, recurring to drastic measures to attack other people should never justify them.
Again, I love Pitch, who doesn’t? But defending a villain treating him like a hurt baby and critiquing an hero who was a victim and responded to him pisses me.